Title POR
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ModeratorPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/21 08:23:41
in my opinion second system better than first system. But second system has two error. one of these;Quete 1-some coutry write to pedigree if dog was stop (L) or don't stop they write again (L) so we don't learn dogs are L or LG than can't give true points. 2-for example: my female dog will be POR tittle with 10 points.than my dog's pupy has 1xL (-3) so my dog POR or Not POR? if Not POR its very absurd. continuous give and take POR tittle! |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/21 10:07:26
Quete shrek69 wrote: For me is better 1. system (and I respect it)... do you think about it? I Agree with you If we like to "See" which bloood it's more best in the world and make the "difference" the system 1 tell the truth! No because system2 not, but the "severity" in system 1 make a "BIG" Difference. |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/21 12:01:32
Quete shrek69 wrote: OK, but LG is very discutable (I heart about female (1xL) and according to the owner never stop because crossed scratch line... or he not admit L... All is about poeple,... About ROM title is L not important too... 100% true, real dealis first sistem, second is not good, and is not oficial. |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/21 14:57:44
this is wrote somewhere toQuete PRODUCER OF RECORD The Producer of Record (POR) is a title which was set up to reflect the true nature of a dogs ability to produce. A great producer does one thing, and that is produce bulldogs consistently. It is the sole duty of the POR title to reflect the genetic ability of these bulldogs. These bulldogs are found and reflected upon in many ways, what the POR does, is unique. All aspect and accomplishments of their offspring, is weighed and then measured next to consistency. The POR system is very simple, and direct. All bulldogs will have their offspring's accomplishments listed in this fashion, with no exceptions. (during a show) A dog that curs............ -3.0 points A dog picked up game....... 1.0 point 1st win.................... 1.0 point 2nd win.................... 2.0 points 3rd win.................... 3.0 points 4th win.................... 4.0 points 5th win or more............ 5.0 points Example.... A dog who has won 2, and picked up game on its 3rd would receive 1.0 point for its 1st, 2.0 points for its 2nd, and 1.0 point for being picked up game. Total = 4 points for its sire and dam. (producing producers) Every dog that produces a POR, they are to receive 6.0 points. Example.... A dog has produced 2 POR dogs, they are to receive 12.0 points. OVERALL Each point will only account for 2 dogs, 1.0 point = 2 offspring. (if a dog has 20 points, they can have no more than 40 offspring. If a dog has 50 points, they can have no more than 100 offspring) Any dog who does not have enough points to account for its offspring, does not deserve the POR title. Example.... A $#@! that has 10.0 points, and 20 or less offspring, she has reached the POR title. If the same $#@! has 21 offspring and only 10.0 points, she is not POR. There is no difference in the scoring for males and females, all are held to the same standard, and must not exceed the points to offspring ratio. |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/21 15:35:41
Quete gameness wrote: this is wrote somewhere to PRODUCER OF RECORD The Producer of Record (POR) is a title which was set up to reflect the true nature of a dogs ability to produce. A great producer does one thing, and that is produce bulldogs consistently. It is the sole duty of the POR title to reflect the genetic ability of these bulldogs. These bulldogs are found and reflected upon in many ways, what the POR does, is unique. All aspect and accomplishments of their offspring, is weighed and then measured next to consistency. The POR system is very simple, and direct. All bulldogs will have their offspring's accomplishments listed in this fashion, with no exceptions. (during a show) A dog that curs............ -3.0 points A dog picked up game....... 1.0 point 1st win.................... 1.0 point 2nd win.................... 2.0 points 3rd win.................... 3.0 points 4th win.................... 4.0 points 5th win or more............ 5.0 points Example.... A dog who has won 2, and picked up game on its 3rd would receive 1.0 point for its 1st, 2.0 points for its 2nd, and 1.0 point for being picked up game. Total = 4 points for its sire and dam. (producing producers) Every dog that produces a POR, they are to receive 6.0 points. Example.... A dog has produced 2 POR dogs, they are to receive 12.0 points. OVERALL Each point will only account for 2 dogs, 1.0 point = 2 offspring. (if a dog has 20 points, they can have no more than 40 offspring. If a dog has 50 points, they can have no more than 100 offspring) Any dog who does not have enough points to account for its offspring, does not deserve the POR title. Example.... A $#@! that has 10.0 points, and 20 or less offspring, she has reached the POR title. If the same $#@! has 21 offspring and only 10.0 points, she is not POR. There is no difference in the scoring for males and females, all are held to the same standard, and must not exceed the points to offspring ratio. My family is in dogs since 1986 year and I can say for me that I am old dogman. First time I hear for this, and all best judges in this part of world are my friend, and I make discusionabouth rules evry day. U have in world many diferent rules for matching, some of tham are so stupid, that man does not need to think abouth tham. Old way to count POR, ROM, CH GR CH is best, we do not need to change nothing. ALL best my friend from Brothers kennel |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/21 15:38:33
P.c. U have dogs who stoped on 3-4 houres and die with big big injuries, and U have dogs who are picked up on 30 minutes, and thay do not have 1 scar , first lose 3 points , second take ? Crazy,,,,. whot U would like to have more from this 2 dogs ?Quete |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/23 00:12:11
First system is the only system I have known people to use.Quete |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/04/23 10:07:35
Quete gameness wrote: this is wrote somewhere to PRODUCER OF RECORD The Producer of Record (POR) is a title which was set up to reflect the true nature of a dogs ability to produce. A great producer does one thing, and that is produce bulldogs consistently. It is the sole duty of the POR title to reflect the genetic ability of these bulldogs. These bulldogs are found and reflected upon in many ways, what the POR does, is unique. All aspect and accomplishments of their offspring, is weighed and then measured next to consistency. The POR system is very simple, and direct. All bulldogs will have their offspring's accomplishments listed in this fashion, with no exceptions. (during a show) A dog that curs............ -3.0 points A dog picked up game....... 1.0 point 1st win.................... 1.0 point 2nd win.................... 2.0 points 3rd win.................... 3.0 points 4th win.................... 4.0 points 5th win or more............ 5.0 points Example.... A dog who has won 2, and picked up game on its 3rd would receive 1.0 point for its 1st, 2.0 points for its 2nd, and 1.0 point for being picked up game. Total = 4 points for its sire and dam. (producing producers) Every dog that produces a POR, they are to receive 6.0 points. Example.... A dog has produced 2 POR dogs, they are to receive 12.0 points. OVERALL Each point will only account for 2 dogs, 1.0 point = 2 offspring. (if a dog has 20 points, they can have no more than 40 offspring. If a dog has 50 points, they can have no more than 100 offspring) Any dog who does not have enough points to account for its offspring, does not deserve the POR title. Example.... A $#@! that has 10.0 points, and 20 or less offspring, she has reached the POR title. If the same $#@! has 21 offspring and only 10.0 points, she is not POR. There is no difference in the scoring for males and females, all are held to the same standard, and must not exceed the points to offspring ratio. So one GR Ch and the parents are POR????????????????? |
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Date sent: 2015/04/29 12:01:20
Quete Hammond wrote: Original rules!!! By this rules , this bitch - http://dogarchive.kennel-apbt.com/details.php?id=128500 - is POR and have 13 or 15 points. Isn't her ? Btw, in my opinion, this rules not smart, you can take bitch, breed her, she born 10 puppies , you match every puppy , you refuse on 2 minutes, your dog go on scratch, than that dog is 1xLG, his brothers and sister do the same, so there is 10 times 1xLG so that bitch is POR ? |
Basic userPM |
Date sent: 2015/05/02 04:38:11
A little differently this counts then what you write ! There are official list somewhere on the Internet , 7 points I think that GR CH brings to parents and 5 point CH for POR title .Quete |
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